Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis

Costumed Superheroes and McMahon's Marble Head

Mac Davis and WWE Hall of FamerTeddy Long

Ever wonder what happens when wrestling legends gather to celebrate one of the industry's most powerful figures? This week, WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long joins Mac Davis to pull back the curtain on his recent attendance at Vince McMahon's ultra-private 80th birthday bash. From sitting at McMahon's personal table alongside John Cena to receiving a remarkable marble bust inscribed with "Some legends are carved in stone," Teddy shares rare glimpses into this exclusive celebration where phones were prohibited and the WWE patriarch was "at home" directing the production.

The conversation shifts to Teddy's adventures at Dragon Con, where he brought an unexpected superhero into the wrestling world by appointing Superman as a special referee for the main event. With costumed fans and electric crowds creating what Teddy calls "an indie performer's dream," his stories paint a vivid picture of wrestling's unique intersection with fan culture.

Through the mailbag segment, Teddy reflects on career highlights and regrets—from refereeing the legendary Steamboat-Flair match at Chi-Town Heat to wishing his bout with Eric Bischoff and Boogeyman "never happened." He shares fascinating insights about his early days refereeing sixteen matches in a single day and the evolution of Doom (Ron Simmons and Butch Reed) from hooded Ebony Express members to one of wrestling's most formidable tag teams.

Whether you're a longtime wrestling fan or simply love behind-the-scenes stories from entertainment's most colorful characters, this episode delivers candid reflections from someone who's truly seen it all. Subscribe now and join us for these exclusive conversations you won't find anywhere else!

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Speaker 1:

Bada-boom, bada-bing. Hello and welcome back to Road Trip After Hours. I'm your host, mac Davis, along with me, wwe Hall of Famer, mr Teddy Long. Hey Teddy, hey Mac. What you doing, brother?

Speaker 2:

Oh girl, I ain't doing nothing.

Speaker 1:

Girl, look here, don't start that with me. That's you and D-Wong I went to. This is one of the things I was going to bring up today too. I went to Dragon Con First time there. I've never been to a Dragon Con or anything like it, and it was one of the most unusual yet entertaining sights I have ever seen. Teddy, I know you were there because you were part of the wrestling program at Dragon Con. How was your time there?

Speaker 2:

Great. I had an absolutely great time, man, and they invited me back next year, so everything was good.

Speaker 1:

That's very cool. It is a very professionally done con. Let me tell you something I'm not used to wrestling. I mean to these kind of cons where they go 24 hours. They don't have a stop. There are parties or there are group meetings throughout the entire 24 hours. It is intense. But if you just want to take the family there one time, just go for the weekend. Let the kids see all the crazy costumes. I think they'd have a blast. My wife, she saw some of the footage of some of the stuff I was doing, teddy, and she was saying you know, I never wanted to go, but after seeing that I want to go now. I want to go see what this you know the whole thing is. Um, did you? I saw a lot of wrestling cosplay there, people in costumes, uh, and I know superman, as a matter of fact, was a part of the uh main event right in and the wrestling show. Yes, tell me how that came about.

Speaker 2:

Well, they had this referee that was a heel referee and they had me to come out, suspend the heel referee and assign my own special referee for the main event for that night and I thought none other person couldn't do could do the job, none other than Superman.

Speaker 1:

So Superman was the guest referee for the dragon con uh main event I know he got physical in the event because I saw him rearing back for a punch, uh, in one of the uh images, uh, from wrestle con, from wrestle con, from dragon con, and uh, it just looked like a lot of fun. The amount of people in that room to watch, uh, those matches, teddy man, that's the an indie performer's dream to get in front of that kind of crowd because they're hot and they're all there for the same reason to have fun and enjoy themselves. And that kind of atmosphere, man, it creates a lot of great matches during the night. I want to talk about this too because, teddy, you and I have not been able to really connect with our schedules for the last couple of shows and during this time you were gone. You went to New York, you were, as people already know from social media, you were part of Vince McMahon's 80th birthday. You want to say anything about your time there you want to talk about, just kind of, let us know how it was.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, not really. Everything was great. I had an outstanding time. I hadn't seen Vince in some years and he walked up to me, greeted me real nice and told me it was good to see me. I told him the same here and I thanked him for everything he's done for me. The next night at the party, what really got me is I just walked in, I just sit down at a table, you know, and so the lady come and got me. She says are you Teddy Long? I said yeah. She said well, you're at Vince's table. So the only person that I think was at that table was me and Kurt Angle. I mean, I'm sorry, my bad, me and John Cena.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, my bad, me and John Cena, I'm sorry, I know there are a lot of names there. There are some that I've seen and they've been public about it. You know, get the Undertaker, godfather, people like that. I can imagine being around those guys because you're talking about a lot of guys you worked with over the years, so it had to feel good to get in the room where you're just with those guys. You know what I mean. Not with all the other fans, you're there with just the guys.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I call them the heavy hitters the heavy hitters Zach Minger, already popping in here saying happy earlier birthday, teddy. Teddy, when's your birthday?

Speaker 2:

September 15th.

Speaker 1:

Not too far away.

Speaker 2:

The other thing we're going to do too, and Mac was talking to me before we came on the air here, and he's dying for me to show this. The best man sent me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, hang on real quick. Before you show it. Let me kind of set this up. Teddy sent me this image and there's a lot of things that Teddy will send me that I don't share. You know it's private. It's private and there was one thing in particular. He sent me a couple of days ago and I saw it. I was like what the hell was that? And this is what he's about to show you. And, teddy, how did this come about?

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't know, you got to talk to Vince. It was in my hotel room and this was his way of giving gifts and he gave me this, and well, they sent it to me. But this is what it is right here, and I hope everybody camera a little bit there.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's incredible. When I saw that I kept thinking was this some kind of a joke thing that you had laying around, or a miniature? That's a nice full head bust of Vince.

Speaker 2:

McMahon yeah, and it says at the bottom. It says some legends are carved in stone. Vince McMahon.

Speaker 1:

Very cool, very cool. Yeah, that's something I you know. I don't anybody's seen that yet. There's a possibility that's already been out there, but that kind of stuff, you know, we know that a lot of things at his birthday party were very private, so much so that they didn't allow video or pictures really being taken without approval, and they were doing their own kind of production there too, right, teddy?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they were. You couldn't have any phones. They'd take the phones from you and, like I said, vince was doing his own producing and uh, so I'm which I'm sure we'll see this somewhere on netflix or some tv somewhere yeah, and you mentioned that it looked good because he was up with the headset again.

Speaker 2:

Looked like he was well yeah I saw him at that one point and uh, he was. You know he was at home. You know he had his headsets on and he was talking to kevin and you know it. Just, he was just at home, he was just so relaxed. I could tell that you know that that's all that, this is his life and that's all he wants to do.

Speaker 1:

Pretty classy lady popping in saying hey, mac and Teddy, good to see you in here again tonight. And, by the way, if you'd like to be a part of the show, all you have to do is just leave us a comment. Have to do is just leave us a comment. You don't have to pay for anything. There's no super stickers or anything like that. All of this is free. Just simply leave us a message and we'll bring it up on the screen. In fact, pretty Classy Lady is asking Teddy, did you ever meet Ernie Ladd? My mom met him in the 70s.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I did meet him when I was working with Vince. They brought him in at one point in time, I think he came in to help out a little bit, but I did get a chance to meet him.

Speaker 1:

Let's see we have Zach, I'm sorry. Happy National Eat, an Extra Dessert Day, pretty classy lady. Uh-oh, uh-oh, may have a little blossoming love thing going on here. Zach and pretty classy lady. He's been kind of sweet on her.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but don't use our show to get the hook up, all right.

Speaker 1:

Let's see. We'll take one more question before we go into a quick break and come back with the mailbag here, michael, hey, michael, good to see you. Hey, teddy, did you ever I'm not sure if I understand this Hang on? Did you ever? Did you ever I'm not sure if I understand this Hang on? Did you ever weather with? Maybe Hoffman Hoffman?

Speaker 2:

I don't understand none of that what he's talking about. Did I ever weather with?

Speaker 1:

What do you mean? Sure, you understand that. Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

I don't know what he's talking about. I don't understand it.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, Michael.

Speaker 2:

Did you ever weather with, maybe Hoffman? I don't know what he's talking about.

Speaker 1:

It sounds like you've got an attorney coming after you. Maybe you've got some guy named Hoffman and Hoffman coming after you, who knows?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. Maybe he's talking about Maven. Is that Maven's name?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, maybe he wants to know if you ever worked with Maven Hoffman or Hoffman.

Speaker 2:

Well, I can't say because I don't know whether that's Maven's real name or not, so I don't know idea what he's talking about. Let's see.

Speaker 1:

Let me just make sure before we get out of here. I was about to say maybe he clarified it, but he hasn't. So, michael, just clarify it a little bit for us. We'll answer it once we understand what we're talking about, but in the meantime let's get in that mail bag here.

Speaker 2:

Letters.

Speaker 1:

Oh, we get letters. We get your letters every day, mailman, mailman, mail. Today.

Speaker 2:

Reach right in and pull one out. Oh letters, I love those letters.

Speaker 1:

Let's find out what you've got to say Mailman mail today. Okay, let's see Inside the mailbag. Our first question, jeff on X asks You've made a lot of wrestlers participate in some wild matches, such as JBL and Undertaker in the last ride match, jbl and Big Show in a barbed wire steel cage match and the Inferno match with Kane and MVP. Oh, and also Matt versus Jeff Hardy in a stretcher match. Do you have a favorite of odd matches like these?

Speaker 2:

I think the favorite was the one with Kane. When I put somebody in, who did he say with Kane in the fire match MVP, MVP, yeah, yeah. That was my favorite one.

Speaker 1:

How dangerous was that? What were they using? That's when they hit the fire around the ring. Is that right?

Speaker 2:

Yeah Well, you just got to be careful. That's all I can tell you. You can't run away from the fire.

Speaker 1:

No, no, because the fire is going to burn, no matter what. By the way, michael is popping back in clarifying what he was saying. It'll stay up there, there we go. Sorry, did you ever work with Megan Hoffman? Who is?

Speaker 2:

Megan Hoffman. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know who this guy's talking about. Did you ever shoot a name from the Indy days? Maybe Megan Hoffman?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I don't remember. I may have Megan Hoffman, I just don't remember that name. I don't know who that is.

Speaker 1:

Let's see Chris Nelms popping in here. That's an old friend in wrestling, teddy, you may know Chris Nelms.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I love Chris. Chris has always been a great guy man. Hey, what happened? Player.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry. He used to go by Locomotive. At one time he used to give him a hard time of it. One time he used to give him a hard time Choo-choo. Hey, Mack and Teddy Teddy, how did you feel about being locked in the shark cage in WCW during the match between Ron Simmons and Butch Reed?

Speaker 2:

Well, I had no choice. Whether I like it or not, that's where I had to go, but I really enjoyed that. That was great man. That was part of the Attitude Era and it was absolutely great. I love doing stuff like that.

Speaker 1:

Let's see Perry in Georgia. Somebody else from Georgia wants to know does WWE pay for the ring gear of wrestlers or suits and dresses for the announcers?

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't think so. I mean they made some announcers and some maybe top guys may have that kind of deal creating their gear and having it made and everything else.

Speaker 1:

Suppose you walk up to Gorilla and Vince doesn't like the gear you're using. I mean, can he take turn around?

Speaker 2:

He's going to tell you what you mean. If you don't like it, you ain't wearing it out there, you're going to go take it off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it seems like somehow they've got to be involved, at least be on the same page for how the gear should look. I would think.

Speaker 2:

Well, what they should do is, when they decide on something, they should maybe get with the writers and let the writers take a defense and show a defense and see what he has to say about it. But a lot of these guys and girls, they'll go to making stuff you know and don't ask nobody. Nothing you know just so I know I look good in this, can you make this, you know? And then when they tell you you can't wear it, then that comes to the attitude problem.

Speaker 1:

So I would imagine, even in some cases, if, let's say, a guy shaves a beard that he's had for a while, or a woman who's had long hair that cuts it short, I imagine you better pass that by the office before you get it done in most cases, right.

Speaker 2:

Well, yeah, yeah, exactly Anything dealing with the body and stuff where you got to be out on TV. And if you're going to change something, then you need to let somebody know.

Speaker 1:

Let's see Michael's saying hey Mac, and Teddy, hey Mac, were you ever in GCW? No, no, there's so many variations of that. I'm assuming that maybe you're talking about Georgia, uh, championship wrestling or something like that, but uh, no, there's a. I just worked in the independence, in the Georgia area mainly, and, uh, I had a great time while I was doing it before I got hurt. Uh, let's see what else we got here. We have. Speaking of hurt. Uh, our next question comes from captain hurt, who writes if you, I don't think it'll be anything.

Speaker 2:

I had a great time with everything that I've done, from getting jackets, from putting up the ring, taking the ring down. I mean my whole career. I mean there were some good times and there were bad times, but that made it all work for me. You know. I just you know, I knew when the bad times were there. So I just struggled right through that, you know, and just kept right on going and I knew when the good times were so, but you also got to understand when the good times, you got to act just like they're not good times. You don't let nothing go to your head, because that's the worst thing you can ever do. So and I never did do that and that's why I'm still a survivor and I'm still around.

Speaker 1:

Was there a an angle maybe, or a storyline that you, if you, could just say, oh, just get rid of that, I don't want that. Anywhere in my history of being in wrestling Was there a storyline or something that you just wish never happened.

Speaker 2:

I wish I never had the match with Eric Bischoff where a boogeyman came in and did the run. That was the worst, Jesus Christ. That was just horrible.

Speaker 1:

That actually made the worst match of the year, if I recall.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure it probably made the worst match of the century.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's see. We also have the Meltdown. Hope you guys are doing well, you as well. Happy Thursday from Arizona. Oh, I know that's Brian. Hey Brian. Well you as well. Happy thursday from arizona. Uh, oh, I know that's brian. Hey, brian, I'm sorry. You know who this is, teddy wrath. Who wrath? Uh, let's see, how would you know him from w? Uh wf, which was adam bomb?

Speaker 2:

oh okay, all right, I didn't know nothing about the rap there, all right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, adam is great man. What a great guy man. I I saw him. It's been a little while, I think we were somewhere together, but I did talk to him. But he has his own podcast. He's doing great too, man let me tell you something.

Speaker 1:

Uh, wrath. Uh, for those who don't know, go back in the wcw catalog and look for wrath. He was a great character for what they when he was. I always enjoyed wrath, oh in. I always felt like there was something about him that said star, it screamed it as a matter of fact, but he just never hit the height that I thought he would hit. Why, I don't know, but he should have been champion. He just has that aura about him. Even when you see him today and, teddy, you said you've met him recently Even when you walk up to him today, he feels special. He has that star quality, right?

Speaker 2:

Well see, his problem is he's like, everybody like him. That's so nice, great attitude.

Speaker 1:

They don't make it no no, no, and I know exactly what you're talking about. Let's see here Michael's saying hey, Teddy, did you ever work with Maven?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I did work with Maven. Yeah, when he first came in from Tough Enough I worked with him, and then I saw him a while back and I did a little bit of work with him.

Speaker 1:

All right, Patty in Cincinnati. This is a good question. Now I'm trying to remember if I can even answer this. Did WWE ever make a Teddy Long teddy bear?

Speaker 2:

No, not that I know of.

Speaker 1:

Now you know that's a great question, because you would automatically think that that would be a go-to for somebody in marketing to go. You know what? Teddy Long, teddy Bear, how hard is that.

Speaker 2:

Hey, my man, you, they. It was hard enough to get a card back then, a Teddy Long card, let alone a Teddy Bear. Jeez, that's not right?

Speaker 1:

That's a great question, because I never really thought about that before. Let's see, steve. Hey, steve Teddy, was you around the Magnum TA deal, and do you see him now? I guess he means the Magnum TA days. Oh yeah, I worked with Magnum TA deal, and do you see him now? I guess he means the Magnum TA days.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I worked with Magnum. I was there when he got hurt in the car accident and everything. Like I said, I haven't seen him lately, but sometime on the different cons and different signings I get a chance to run into Magnum. But yeah, he's still around and he's still humble, still a nice guy.

Speaker 1:

He sure is. As a matter of fact, I did an interview with him that you'll find on this channel and on YouTube for Road Trip After Hours. One of my early interviews I did with Magnum TA, a super nice guy, and he gave a great story about that cage match with Tully Blanchard and the spike that was used in that match is a great story behind that. So look that up down below, let's see Pretty classy lady. Let's see Are either of y'all NFL fans? Are you ready for the new season, Teddy? Are you a football fan?

Speaker 2:

I'm not a big football fan, but I am a football fan and I am getting ready for the season. I'm looking at a lot of new talent that the Atlanta Falcons have acquired. So I'm looking forward a lot of new talent that the Atlanta Falcons have acquired, so I'm looking forward to watching them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love football when I can sit down and actually enjoy it. Otherwise, I'm not a rabid fan. I'm not going to watch every game that happens throughout the weekend. That's just not me. I got too much other stuff going on to do that.

Speaker 2:

But let's see Darren from Florida is our last question coming from the mailbag, and he asked what was your favorite match that you refereed prior to WWE? Probably the Steamboat and Flair match, chi-town, chi-town Heat. Yeah, that was a real, that was real important. I really, you know, I really well, I gained some steam for myself by doing that.

Speaker 1:

Now look, I've never seen you back. I've seen you in Harley races matches before. Yes, it's amazing to me when I go back to watch some of the early videos of Jim Crockett promotions, nwa stuff like that and I'll see you pop up as the referee in a lot of these matches a lot, and it amazes me. Go ahead.

Speaker 2:

I was the only ref I had to do the Saturday morning show and the Saturday afternoon show. All of them, it was like 16 matches.

Speaker 1:

I imagine you learned quick then.

Speaker 2:

Well, you had to learn. You know what I mean, because there wasn't no time to play, it was all strictly business. So by me being able to work all those matches, you know, by myself and everything, it was great for me because I could learn and concentrate, and that's what I did. Every one I stepped into. I learned something that day, yeah.

Speaker 1:

All right, let's see Brian Teddy. When did you meet Ron Simmons?

Speaker 2:

Ron came in from Florida. They brought him up. He was working down there and he came in and they brought him up to WCW and that's when we did the thing with him and JYD God rest his soul. I made the fast count and did the heel rubber return, but that's when I met Ron.

Speaker 1:

When did Butch get involved? When did the idea come together for Butch and Ron to get together?

Speaker 2:

Well, nancy, benoit, nancy, god rest her soul she was managing them and they were I'm trying to think what they called them then oh, the Ebony Express. They had on hoods. And finally, when Kevin brought up, you know, and mentioned me and let them know about me being able to talk and they wanted to make me a manager, well, that's when they decided to take those guys and put them with me. So that's when Butch came in the picture. Then, after, when I came in with Ron, they came in as the Ebony Express. Then I took the hoods off of them, you know, I said they're too good looking to be wearing hoods, you know, and here they are doing.

Speaker 1:

Hopefully we didn't lose you just then, teddy. Hopefully that's just the flash from your phone getting a call you there. Yeah, there you are. Okay, let me ask you on the mic.

Speaker 2:

Who was better? Ron Simmons, butch Reed Well, they both could talk. You know what I mean. Butch was. You know he was a little more entertaining because he's kind of country, you know, and he had that slang about him. You know I'm going to poke chop you.

Speaker 1:

He was real funny.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I always wondered, because for you to be the mouthpiece of those two and neither one of them had a problem using a microphone. I mean, you had three guys that were in a group that could just burn on a microphone, so it was hard to ever, you know, not be successful with the group of doom and Teddy. Did we lose you for good this time? I think we lost Teddy for good that time. All right, I would say, well, hang on, guys, and while he's there, he goes. He's trying to get back in here. Let me grab it. And there you are, you can hear us. Okay, yeah, okay. Let me get in a few more questions before we finish up here. Michael, saying what are your memories working with Big?

Speaker 2:

Johnny Teddy.

Speaker 1:

I don't remember him and I don't want to remember him. Is he talking about John Laurinaitis? Is that who that is?

Speaker 2:

Exactly yeah, Boy.

Speaker 1:

I haven't heard that name in a while and it's been so nice and pleasant. I mean no offense, yeah, boy, I haven't heard that name in a while and it's been so nice and pleasant. I mean no offense, michael. Thanks for asking, though let's see. Also, we did have somebody asking you to do something. Dave Crone wanted you to go. Teddy, can you say you're going one-on-one with the Undertaker?

Speaker 2:

That's a combo you need to send me $100.

Speaker 1:

Hey, when you go to these signings at these conventions, all you got to do is roll up your telephone and he can do that all day for you for a price because it's all about the money.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, he's really good about that. With a lot of people, I got to tell you. There are times too I've been around a lot of guys who work in these cons and Teddy can come across like he's just all business. But there are times when there are fans who come up that Teddy knows just what the experience means for them and he'll sweeten that pot and give it to them for damn near nothing, sometimes simply because they're that cool of an individual and I don't see many people do that, Although I will say Boogeyman Also. I've seen him do that as well. He really looks out for the fans. All right, let's see. What else do we have here? I got one more, I think here Teddy the boogeyman cut out Teddy's feed. He probably did. That's probably why he was gone. Either that or he's getting the phone call from his little sweetheart. So, teddy, that's it. We've got to pick a name before we go out of here. Who do you?

Speaker 2:

want to go with tonight. What question I want to go with the gentleman that. What was that question?

Speaker 1:

that just asked us no, I don't know what you're.

Speaker 2:

Right before you went to this. What did the guy just ask us?

Speaker 1:

Let's see we had. What are your memories working with Big Johnny? Yeah, that's who you want to give it to. Okay, so that's Michael. Michael, I know you're listening to us, and just drop me a direct message or or an email. If you want to know what our email is, it's very simple. It's Mac Davis, mail M-A-I-L at gmailcom and congratulations. We'll get that shirt out to you. Teddy man. I've had fun.

Speaker 2:

I know that you stay busy, but I believe you're going to try to take a little time off right now, right.

Speaker 1:

Well, you know I don't take time off, I reschedule. Well, gotcha, I'm just going to take a breather for a second.

Speaker 2:

Hey, I'm going to this week I'm going to take next week I'm going to get up, get ready to go see Denise. She's making some banana pudding and some red velvet. All this is homemade player.

Speaker 1:

Red velvet and I'm on a heavy diet right now, so there's just no way I'm on a diet too, but what I do, I don't eat a lot of it.

Speaker 2:

I'll go up, she'll have dinner, I'll eat, and I'll eat maybe one serving that night. Then maybe not the next night, but maybe the second night I may eat a little bit more and then I'll bring something home with me. But man, you got to. This homemade stuff here is unreal.

Speaker 1:

And look here, I know Teddy and his appetite of watching put away an entire dozen Krispy Kreme donuts.

Speaker 2:

No, you have not. No, you have not, no, you have not. Why are you telling me, you ain't seen me do that?

Speaker 1:

We're out of here.

Speaker 2:

We'll see you.

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