Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis

Teddy Long and Mac Davis, Field Live Fan Questions, And Talk WrestleCade, WWE, And The State Of Wrestling

Mac Davis and WWE Hall of FamerTeddy Long

A Thanksgiving stream with Teddy Long shouldn’t feel this cozy and this candid, but that’s exactly what happens. We open with food—banana pudding, butter beans, Cracker Barrel confessions—and quickly slide into why rituals and family traditions matter just as much in wrestling as they do at the dinner table. From there, the energy shifts to the weekend’s big draw: WrestleCade in Winston-Salem. We talk who’s appearing, why fan conventions are a lifeline for the culture, and how meeting legends creates memories TV can’t touch.

When the mailbag hits, the stories hit harder. Teddy drops a wild road tale about a speed trap, a night in lockup, and the Hardy Boyz walking into the same small-town jail. It’s raw, funny, and exactly the kind of behind-the-scenes look that reminds you the real grind happens far from the cameras. We also pull back the curtain on locker room realities—washing gear, staying professional, and the quiet habits that keep a crew running.

The heart of the conversation centers on storytelling. We get honest about modern wrestling’s biggest gap: the thread that makes fans care week to week. WarGames hype without stakes falls flat, and even John Cena’s farewell run needs a stronger build to feel legendary. Along the way, we swap quick-hit name associations—Bobby Lashley, Juventud Guerrera, Doink, Batista—and share a standout memory of Batista going from airport pickup duty in OVW to world champion, a perfect example of a narrative arc done right.

We don’t keep it narrow, either. JCW and Insane Clown Posse come up as proof that alternative promotions can thrive by offering experiences that feel personal and electric. The throughline is clear: give fans identity, consequences, and characters with edges, and they’ll show up, cheer loud, and stick around.

If you care about the craft, the culture, and the community, this one will hit home. Tap play, join the live chat on Thursdays at 7 pm ET, and tell a friend who loves wrestling stories that actually go somewhere. Subscribe, share, and leave a review to help more fans find us.

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SPEAKER_00:

Boo shak a lock. Hey, Teddy. What are you what is what did you what did a boo shakalaka? What is that all about? I just can't I don't know. Look here. I've I just I I open up the picture and I see you sitting in a appears to be a genie bottle again. And I keep going back for those who don't know if you ever watched I Dream of Jeannie. She always had these scenes where she was in her bottle. That's what that background always remains behind you. And I and I know you'd be having a genie there with you anyhow. You just call it a different name.

SPEAKER_04:

Yes, I do. Yes, I do have a genie here with me.

SPEAKER_00:

Hi Teddy, you gotta tell everybody this is Thanksgiving, by the way, everybody. And happy Thanksgiving to you and thank you for joining us live uh tonight. Uh, we don't know how many people will get in here tonight. It is a holiday, but we appreciate it. We got people in here already, so that's a great sign. And by the way, if you want to have a question for Teddy, anything's on the table, just throw him a question, he'll answer it. And it's not even gonna cost you anything. That's the great thing about this show. We don't charge you for asking a question.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh well, you we don't know. We don't know that now. That's according to what question they ask. Now, one of the questions they asked, they might have to pay for it. So we're not ever going to turn down any money.

SPEAKER_00:

Spoken like a real businessman. Teddy, tell me now you're you are with uh Denise uh this weekend. I know you were able to go up there for uh Thanksgiving. Uh, and I know you're looking forward to the food, so you gotta give me an update. Tell me about the food.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, Denise and I were eating this afternoon, and I forgot about it. I knew we was because she mentioned it to me. She told me we need to take a picture and uh so we'd have it ready for you. So uh, but I didn't take a picture, but the food has just been tremendous. And Denise, if you don't mind, would you go get the banana pudding? Let me just show. Oh uh smack the banana pudding. You don't have to be on camera, just hand the pudding to me.

SPEAKER_00:

If you want to get on camera, Miss Denise, we would love to have you on camera.

SPEAKER_04:

No, we're gonna we're not gonna reveal Denise.

SPEAKER_00:

No, okay, let's not reveal. Okay, here we go. What you got? You got oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

She's gotta go get the banana pudding. So, how was the food though? Oh, god, man, the food was just outstanding. It maybe take the top out of it, too. Now, I want you to look, this is the real deal here, man. I had uh, well, I went by uh her mom's house, and her mom had some sweet potato pie, so I didn't get a chance to eat the banana pudding today, but I got the sweet potato pie now.

SPEAKER_00:

Here, let's see, how can I get that's a piece of Tupperware, Teddy? Oh, there you go. Oh, there it is.

SPEAKER_04:

Look good air.

SPEAKER_00:

That's just not right. And I know she can hear me most likely in that room. So uh, Denise, you still owe me some uh banana pudding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I figured she did. Man, I we we had a strange Thanksgiving this year. We uh normally we have all the kids and the grandkids over, but this is one of those years where you know you got so I I got five kids and I got 10 grandbabies. So, you know, there's a lot of family members and they all want to see everybody. So it becomes where one year it's your year, one year it's not your year. This wasn't our year, so we decided we're gonna go to Cracker Barrel. That was our Thanksgiving. I had turkey at uh cracker barrel, which I'm gonna be honest with you was actually very good. I enjoyed it. Uh it's not your typical uh Thanksgiving, but uh that place was packed out, man. They just a lot of people inside uh having Thanksgiving meals.

SPEAKER_04:

But well, a lot of people, you know, nowadays they'd rather do that and cook, you know. That's cooking that's a job now because I watched Denise, man. That that ain't no joke at cooking. So a lot of people don't want to do it, they'd rather just go out and eat.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, now there's some women who love to cook because they know they're good and they know that they can make a lot of people happy.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that's Denise. She knows she's good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Some women who are working on a stove. Yeah, I imagine Denise uh loves to be around the kitchen and say and my wife's the same way when it comes to certain food. She likes to be in the kitchen, but uh, you know, not a lot. And I always tell her it's like, do you really have to cook a turkey? Why don't you just buy one cooked, bring it home, heat it up, and serve it? I don't understand. Make the kids bring some casseroles over or some desserts or something, you know. No, no, she's gotta do it all. No, no, she's gotta do every bit of it. She, even though we don't have the kids, we'll get on the wrestling in just a second here. Even though we don't have the kids this year, she still made her lasagna that she makes on every occasion that takes place. And you know, it's a birthday, anniversary, whatever. There's gonna be a pan of lasagna around. And she made two pans of lasagna to give to the kids, even though they weren't here and she delivered them today.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, it's an Italian uh Thanksgiving, I guess. That's what I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_00:

That's family, yeah, brother. All right, look here. We've got a I'm surprised by how many people we have in here right now. We got some questions too. So, uh, guys, that really thank you so much for popping in here with us. I'm trying to bring the first one up. Zach is always usually one of the first ones saying, Happy Thanksgiving, Teddy and Mac. Happy Thanksgiving to you, Zach. Also, let's see, we have uh Ramos John, or John Ramos, maybe. How is live treating you, Teddy and Mac? Uh I'm I'm fat and happy right now, you teddy.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I'm not fat and happy, I'm happy, but I'm enjoying my life.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's see, John Adams uh saying happy Thanksgiving as well. Happy Thanksgiving, John. Back at you, John. And let's see, uh, who else have we got one here? Um, George Carl, happy Thanksgiving as well. Hey, George, thanks for coming into the room and uh happy Thanksgiving to you.

SPEAKER_04:

Thank you, Joyce. Happy Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_00:

And guess who else is in the room with us? Pretty classy lady, pretty classy lady saying hey, and uh uh and she actually says she enjoys cooking as well. Yeah, you know, I grew up at a time when uh my mom she loved to cook, her mom loved to cook, but they're after my mom, it seems like women weren't so interested in the kitchen anymore. I mean, they were more interested in just they can go out and get takeout and throw it down, and that was good enough. And so I stopped getting those real home-cooked meals that I grew up with. Uh I I still have like my wife now. There's one thing I want at least once every couple of weeks. I want pork chops with black-eyed peas over rice and a salad and iced tea. And that's just an old southern meal that I remember my mom making, and uh, it was one of my favorites. And my wife makes it to the same, it tastes just like it.

SPEAKER_04:

I had something today that I hadn't had in many, many years. I remember hearing about them, but uh, remember a kid I might have had them, and it was uh Denise was telling me telling me about butter beans, and uh so I had them today, and I really enjoyed them. They were really good.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh you've never had butter beans before today.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, yeah, I think I was a child. It's been so many, many years. I hadn't thought nothing about butter beans, but I remember the name butter beans.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's why I used to get in trouble because I would always get butter beans. I love butter beans, they're one of my favorite, what I call one of my favorite vegetables. And then I'm told, well, it's not really a vegetable.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, well, we yeah, like I said, I had them today and they they were really good. And I had a uh a stuffing too. Uh golly, man, I don't know what she put in that, but uh it's unreal. I I gotta have some of that to just take around a bit, maybe keep in my pocket.

SPEAKER_00:

Denise, I know what you put in there. I I know the city, you put love in that.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't lie, you put love on that.

SPEAKER_00:

Anything in the news wrestling-wise, you know, I didn't really prep a whole lot of stuff up for tonight's show.

SPEAKER_04:

But well, I'm just gonna let everybody know that's uh big night for me and uh wrestling fans tomorrow night in uh Winston-Salem, uh North Carolina, there at the Ben Convention Center, the big deal every year, WrestleKade. I'll be there along with uh Ron Simmons, JBL, and many, many other top superstars. So uh gonna have a great time there. I hadn't been there in a while, so I'm gonna be really happy to see some of the fans and uh just enjoy myself uh Friday and Saturday over at the convention center with WrestleK. But tomorrow night, tomorrow afternoon, we kick off. I'll see you there.

SPEAKER_00:

And by the way, again, if you want to be a part of the show, just drop us a comment. We'll throw it up on the screen here. Uh, I've had somebody actually send a message going on. Where's Bill tonight? Bill will be along us with occasionally on this show, uh, hopping in and answering questions and kind of joining in, especially because uh he's one of the original three Migos from our older show that we used to do. Uh so it's always good to have Bill around, but we got to guess we still got to get scheduled in here and stuff like that. So uh Bill will be back. Trust me, he'll be back. Uh, but in the meantime, it is Thanksgiving. Myself, Teddy, Bill, and even Dvon want to say thank you. And by the way, also, right after that, we open the mailbag.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, Thanksgiving day is drawing near. Since Plymouth rock us, turkeys live in fear. You're giving thanks for what you got. Family, friends, and food and fun, but madness, oven's hot. Fill your plates up to the sky. With cranberry, cornbread, stopping twins, and flakes and pies. So be thankful for this dinner that your life's so free complete. Be thankful that you're not a walking feathered slab of meat. Be thankful when you're happy, and thankful when you're free. But most of all, be thankful. Be thankful that you're gone.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, we got letters, we get the letters every day. We let the letters.

SPEAKER_01:

Let's find out what you got today. Oh boy!

SPEAKER_00:

All right. I but my you know, look here. I if you could hear what happens while that song is on, I'm in the background. I'm singing along goofy with this song. My wife pops her head in. Like, what is wrong with you?

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I I couldn't agree with her. I I would imagine I would pop my head in too if you were singing that song.

SPEAKER_00:

Look here, if I had the option to be able to put the audio over some of this music and be laughing or talking about things in the background, I would do it. That's how I used to do my radio show. You never knew where I was at any time. All right, let's see. We got Paige from Facebook who wants to know since the name of the show is Road Trip After Hours, what was the worst road trip you have ever taken, Teddy?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh man, I don't know. Jesus, I'm trying to remember what is the worst. Oh, I know what the worst road trip was. Well, maybe I had a worse one, but I remember one time uh me and Brian Hebner, Earl Hebner's son, we was uh Iowa, I think that's what it was. We was in Waterloo, Iowa, somewhere with some parts of Iowa. Anyway, we was coming back and we was no, we was headed to Milwaukee, and we was coming back, and I guess I was thinking I think it was a speed trap. I'm not sure. Okay. But anyway, we got stopped, we got pulled over. So, you know. So we got pulled over, and then the next thing I uh listen, now this is this is unreal. So, you know, we got a little bud in the car, so we're smoking and everything. So, but we you know, we didn't say nothing, you know. So by this time, the guy takes my driver's license, and then he recognizes us, so I'm really thinking now, well, maybe we won't have no problem. So he didn't say nothing about the weed, and then all of a sudden he takes my driver's license and he comes back with my driver's license and he says he smelled weed on my driver's license because I think when I was roading it, I probably had the scent on my hands. So that's what got me. So, man, they took me uh as Heavner took us all, took us back to jail and everything, man, locked us down. Next thing I know, here come the Hardy boys. They got them, they're bring they're bringing them in. So, so this was a trap. They set a speed trap for us. So, anyway, they let us they said we signed our own uh bond or whatever it was, so we didn't have to go back up there, but I did have to send money up there to get a lawyer and pay 600 bucks or something, not to have to go back up there. But uh that was that was a pretty bad road trip that night.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that that would not have been fun. Curly man popping in saying happy Thanksgiving. Happy Thanksgiving, Curly Man. Always good to have you in this room. You've been another one of our regulars every week.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, thank you very much, player. Happy Thanksgiving to you.

SPEAKER_00:

Look here, KJ Britton is in the room saying happy Thanksgiving. Same to you, happy Thanksgiving. Pretty classy ladies asking, are either of us going to watch Survivor series? She says that I'm not really looking forward to it. I teddy, here's the bad thing. I I can't tell you who's in the Survivor series.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I've like I said, I'm pretty sure I'll be doing some other things. I know I won't be watching it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I I it's not that I I'm not interested in it, but uh I'm just not interested in the product right. I need some stories and I'm not getting them right now. And when I start getting those, I'll start watching again. Uh but I'm not making it, I'm not making it a habit because I got so many other things to watch. I mean, just past uh what just last night we dropped uh Stranger Things, the brand new season on that actually it caused problems for Netflix uh when they uh dropped it because everybody tried to watch at the same time. And when you've got like that, when you have an option of watching a show like that versus watching a Monday Night Raw or a SmackDown or an AEW, it's anybody really right now. It's I rather watch Stranger Things. That's a much better draw for me to go watch. I'm more in you know in tune with that than I am with what the current product is in wrestling. Uh so and that's you know, everybody's different. I get that. You may some of you may love what they're doing right now. I just know it's nowhere near as close as what it once was. Uh let's see. We also have uh Pee-wee uh in the room. By the way, your shirt went out. Uh, well, actually, like Monday, Tuesday, something like that. Uh saying, what up, Mac and Teddy? Happy Thanksgiving. It's good to go. Look here, look here. I I Nick, uh, we're gonna get you in here. Actually, uh, next let me know how you look next uh Thursday night. I'd love to get you on the show next week, Joe. Uh, the hardest working guy in the business saying happy Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, Joe, uh Nick Patrick, my man. Uh, me and him travel the road many, many, many years, man. I owe a lot to Nick. God uh I really love him, man. What a great friend to have, man. And what a great guy to travel with back in the day. So, yeah, Nick, if you get time, we'd like to have you on and talk about it. Nick has his own uh company there in Georgia. He runs his own uh independent wrestling and uh doing a great job in Georgia, real good job. And I think a lot of you people may need to know about that. So, Nick, if you get time, we Mac and I'd like to talk to you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's uh Deep South Wrestling is the group that he works with. And uh what I like about Nick is that he's one of those guys, too, that it not only does he have these shows that he puts on, but he you know he helps train these guys, they learn from Nick. Nick is a Nick's not just a referee, Nick was actually a wrestler at one time. He's actually in the ring.

SPEAKER_04:

Started in deep south in uh in uh uh mid-south, yeah with Bill Watts down there.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, sure did. So, I mean, and a lot of people may not know that. So, Nick is full of knowledge and he's got some great stories too. I've heard some of them. Uh yeah, Nick is hilarious. Nick is Nick's fun to hang around, let's just put it that way.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's see. Uh, we got Elijah saying, question, what do you guys think? If, for example, and I'm not saying it would, is any weird way somehow that Vince McMahon could come back and buy his company. Just a thought. I have heard people knock that around saying that maybe we still might see Vince McMahon owning WWE one day. I just think the only way that's gonna happen is if Saudi buys it and somehow puts him in charge.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, let's look at it like this. You know, the TKO only owns half anyway, I think. I think WWE still owns half of the company.

SPEAKER_00:

Is that true? TKO TKO owns basically the majority share of everything, so they make all the calls. That's why that's why we see these ticket prices the way they are, Teddy. You know, they're going up so high. It's because they're making the decisions and not the people who normally deal with the actual customers.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, you see what Vez usually does with people like that, he's just sit back and he watches them fall.

SPEAKER_00:

That's that's well, yeah. How long you know, it's like how long do you let that happen, though?

SPEAKER_04:

Well, right now, you know, with the the way money is and stuff in the world, you know, people ain't gonna be losing too much money too fast. And once that starts happening, you know, when people get smart enough that they realize they're not gonna pay these high ticket prices, you know, they'd rather not, then they're gonna they're they're gonna make some changes there, then something will happen.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yes, Pee Wee. I did send out four X. Is it I hope that was correct? That's what you told us. So I sent you a four X. Uh yeah, yeah. It took a uh a crate to get that thing out, but uh no, just peace. Uh let's see. Uh Nick saying, yeah, let's do it soon. Yeah, Nick, uh, I'll get with you soon and we'll figure out uh what works for you. But uh yeah, definitely want to be on the show. Pretty classy lady saying, uh, I've noticed a lot of the older wrestlers and people in the business say the dressing room instead of the locking room. Uh difference from calling it a dressing room or a locker room. Teddy, was that a big deal? Uh, did guys just call it different things? Locker room, dressing room?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, they just, you know, some say locker room, some say dressing room. You know, they're not certain that you had to say those things. That's just how it went.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, it's uh in I'm because I'm sitting here thinking in independent wrestling, you just always ask, you know, where's the dressing room? Because if you ask for the locker room, it may not be the dressing room. Uh you always had to ask where the dressing room was. Uh so I yeah, I think that that's the only reason why more guys probably call it a dressing room. Is that on the independence? That's basically what you call it. Uh, let's see, Renee Adams popping in saying, Happy Thanksgiving and happy turkey day to you.

SPEAKER_04:

Thank you. Happy Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_00:

All right. I I feel like we've asked this question before, but I'll ask it again. Uh, this is coming from Jeff in Tennessee, who wants to know who was the worst smelling person you ever had to work with.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh God, man, I tell you.

SPEAKER_00:

I've heard a lot of stories while you're thinking about it. I've heard a lot of stories about Vader. I've heard that he always had tended to have a little bit of a stench uh when he was in the ring, but some of the guys just wouldn't wash their gear. And when you sweat in that gear and you don't wash it, oh brother.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, uh King Kunk Bundy was one of those guys. Wasn't yeah, Bundy, he was a little on the soil side. Uh that may I think that was that was about it. That was about it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I I haven't heard of many, and most people I imagine are not having there's not that issue anymore. Uh that was probably more so in the uh the older days. But I mean, you who knows? Maybe some of these young kids don't know what a deodorant stick is.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh well, some guys just like that, man. I remember, you know, when we was overseas, and this was, you know, a lot of guys that were on my team there, you know, I won't call their names, but you know, I was a guy, and a lot of guys will tell you, uh, I've worked out all the time and always found me a lock uh uh wash and dryer. You know, everybody can tell you that about me. I found a wash and dryer when I went in the hotel. I made sure there was one there, or if I could find one at the arena, some arenas overseas, they had them right there. And I wouldn't tell this guy that hey, there's a wash and dryer right here, man. Wash your stuff, and I mean it's right there, so you know you're overseas for 15 days there, so you gotta keep your gear clean. And uh that guy didn't do it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, there were guys in the independent study that uh, and it wasn't just me that would notice this because I heard a lot of guys talk about it, but there were guys you would get in the ring with, and after you did a match with them, if they weren't smelling good, neither were you by the end of the match. You could smell them on you to where it would turn your stomach sometimes. Yeah, and it really makes you mad. You're you're like, dude, will you please wash next time?

SPEAKER_04:

Um, you know, when guys sweat, and then you that really, you know, that dries, you know, that that odor from that, you know. That's one thing about the iron sheet, God rest his soul. He was a guy that took a shower, he stayed in the shower about an hour. I mean with a lot of guys used to go. She used to showering, you know, but yeah, he was one thing about him, he would stay clean.

SPEAKER_00:

There's no tell what the chic was doing in the shower that but he'd be in there a long time.

SPEAKER_04:

Ah, not yet, Bubba. Not yet.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's see. I am Dwayne. Uh, hello from the Philippines, and happy Thanksgiving. Thanks on Mariah May. Oh, thoughts on Mariah May nowadays in NXT, all the way from the Philippines. That is cool.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, thanks for watching us, man. All the way from the Philippines. Thank you very much, man. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and by the way, uh, subscribe if you haven't subscribed already. If you're watching us right now, please subscribe and share. And also, now I'm being told again, you're talking to somebody who knows nothing about how you get these shows out there. But I'm told if you leave comments in the comment section of this video that that helps the uh what would they call that? The um I don't know. Who knows? Christian from Buzz Sprouts uh gave me. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04:

I thought you wanted to uh did we ask this question? He was asking us something about our thoughts on Mariah May.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I love Mariah May. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm gonna tell you, I don't know how she's doing in NXT. Teddy, do you know? Do you watch?

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, no. I I watch that every now and then, but I I I don't know exactly how she's doing. I think she just went there, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, she's under a different name. I she's not Mariah May, and uh Dwayne may know, but I I want to say it's Blake something, maybe now. Blake Blake Monroe, maybe is the name she's going by. She's a beautiful woman, she is a very striking woman. Uh, and I can understand why anybody would want her on their roster. Uh let's see pretty classy lays saying, uh, thanks, y'all, for going live today. This is a treat. Algorithm. Thank you. Pretty classy lady kind of tell me what the word I was looking for. Yeah, it helps the algorithm. Uh, so yeah, share, subscribe, leave a comment. And uh, we're trying to get these numbers up more and more each and every week. And uh, we appreciate it when you do that. Renee Adams uh popping in saying, if anyone needs shirts made, get in touch with me on Facebook Messenger. All right. There you go. Hey, look, see, we'll say anything that goes. Well, we'll say most anything that comes up. If it's really bad, it's not going on the screen. All right, Christian from Buzz Sprout uh has a name association. We got about five more minutes, and we'll probably get some more questions in here before it's over with. But uh, let's start with one of the names he's got on the list. Uh, Bobby Lashley is the first one. Any thoughts on Bobby Lashley, memories, anything?

SPEAKER_04:

Um, not really. Uh great guy to work with, you know. Didn't you know we didn't associate too much. He was always on one one doing something else. I was something. Like I said, we just me and him talk a little bit by passing and you know, do with each other, and that was about it. But nice guy.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep. Uh, the next one maybe we've talked about, maybe we haven't. This is a good one, though. Hooventude Guerrero.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I remember him when he came in. He was part of the guys that uh Codenan uh brought a lot of those guys in that do enhancement matches and uh Hooventude. Yeah, he was a nice guy. What about Joink the Clown? Well, they had two of them. Uh, you know, I think uh Matt Bourne was one of them, you know. God rest his soul. And then who was it, Brawler? Was Brawler the other one?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't remember. I just remember Matt Bourne.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, well, it was two of them. I remember I thought Brawler might have been the other one. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm gonna say that in today's wrestling, I know a lot of today's stuff is reality-based, but I believe that there is a place for an evil clown kind of a character if it's done properly, more like what the uh the Joker was with uh I can't remember the yeah, yeah. There's certain looks when it makes it believable that the guy could be a little unhinged, that makes me draw in because I can believe that this person's nutty enough to be like this. Right, and and that's what I think we we need more than that at in-rest characters. I don't want to see Joint the Clown bumping around. Uh a little bit of makeup to give him that feel. I think he'd go over well. Uh Batista is the next one, Teddy.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Uh Batista, a real nice guy, man. Had a chance to travel a lot with him. And uh, I'll never forget the first time I met him, he was in developmental down in uh uh OBW with uh Cornet. And uh this is amazing. Now, here's a guy, Batista, coming and picking me up from the airport, giving me a ride. Next thing here later, Batista's the the world heavyweight champion. So so, but uh, really I I had a good time with Batista. He was a real nice guy, too, man.

SPEAKER_00:

But now him driving you around, too. I mean, isn't that a respect that a lot of these guys, the the younger guys would carry the bags or drive the older guys, correct?

SPEAKER_04:

Well, yeah. Well, he came to the airport in Louisville. I went down to do something with Cornette, uh, but when he had the OVW down there, and I went to do something at the at that show. And uh he's the Batista's the one that picked me up at the airport.

SPEAKER_00:

That's that's cool. Uh let's see, we got um uh John saying, Thoughts on the men's war game match. Um, I'm gonna be honest again, I haven't watched enough to be able to speak on it. Uh, I've got to catch up uh before uh this weekend so I can watch it and understand what I'm watching. Uh, but this week has been crazy and I just haven't had a chance.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, a lot of changes have been made to it as far as I'm concerned, the way that I see it. So it's not the same. So I don't really want to comment on it until we really see, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

I I'm still not crazy about the John Cena buildup. We're just uh what three, four weeks away from his very final match.

SPEAKER_04:

What buildup?

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. I mean, that this tournament does not build up a in anticipation for me to watch John Cena's last match at this point. I don't know who it is, but of the people I see, nobody excites me. It's like, well, okay, you know, it's a match. They gotta have a surprise somewhere, or it's just gonna fall completely on his face. And that's horrible when it's John Cena's very final match.

SPEAKER_04:

That's not and it could have been done right.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it could have been done right. And I don't, I think it was destined to fail from the very beginning, and I think maybe uh purposely so. Uh, you know, uh, you know, who knows? Uh, let's see, Renee Adams saying the hurt clan. I don't, I'm not sure what that uh is tying to.

SPEAKER_04:

That's uh that's I think they're calling the MVP and uh Lashley and them, and they I think they're calling them that the Hurt Clan because they were the Hurt Business.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, we hurt people. Um we hurt people the Hurt Clinton. I think that's the hurt business.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

The hurt business. I knew it would come to me sooner or later. Uh see it, Cena will lose the title this Saturday. Uh, because uh he'll pop back in in a second. Uh there he is. Hang on, let me pop him in here. You back?

SPEAKER_04:

Okay, yeah. Man, you were you were getting so much echoed. Golly.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you know what it was? It was, was, was, was, was, was, was.

SPEAKER_04:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Pretty classy when he's saying, I wonder if Cena will lose the title this Saturday.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, I mean, that I like that's supposed to happen. I think this is his last deal, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, here's the thing if he doesn't lose uh on Saturday night. And Dominic Mysterio doesn't regain his uh IC championship, or well, I think that's the one that he's got. Um I don't see how John Cena goes to his final match with a belt. Because at that point you're thinking, well, he's gonna lose, and somebody else has got to get the belt because if he wins, he wins and has the belt. It makes no sense, Teddy. It makes no sense. Oh God. All right, let's see. I'll I'll get a few more of you in here before we get out. Um let's see, Joey77 saying, Hey, Mac and Teddy, have you watched JCW? If so, what are your thoughts? I have watched JCW. Uh I've watched uh probably the last five or six episodes. Um, and I think you're gonna love what's coming. Um, just keep watching. That's all I can tell you. This it's a fantastic show, uh, and there's a lot of people who are starting to get behind this for a reason. And I'd love to see the growth that this uh company is doing.

SPEAKER_04:

Who are they? I don't even know.

SPEAKER_00:

This is Insane Clown Posse. Uh, you may remember them. They uh they look this is kind of a unique thing, too, with JCW. That's the name of the wrestling part of their thing, uh the Juggalo Championship Wrestling. And after that, some of their wrestling shows, after that, they have a concert, and the concerts are crazy. I mean, thousands of people sitting in there, Fago soda being spewed all over the place. It is one heck of a party. I mean, if you want to go and enjoy yourself, man, that's the place to go.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, that's what the insane claim posse do, they have a good time.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, they do, they have a fantastic time, and uh so uh best wishes to all those guys as they get that thing up and rolling. Yes. Uh let's see, Kenneth Beckner saying, Happy Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_04:

Hello there, little Kenneth Beckner. Happy to hear from you. I hope you're standing up where I can really talk to you.

SPEAKER_00:

You think he eats just a drumstick? That's about all he can eat. I think that's about all he can eat. That's about yeah, it's probably all he can hold up with his little tiny body he's got. Uh let's see. Pretty classy ladies, pretty classy ladies saying, Did Rufus get him a big plate of turkey? Oh no, Teddy, Teddy. Where is where is Rufus on Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_04:

I I'm gonna save some of mine that uh when I go home, I'm gonna take him something home. And so that's when he'll get it all when I make it home. But no, he didn't make it today because he Rufus is in the hotel.

SPEAKER_00:

Hotel. So Rufus is eating that nasty hotel food, right? Wow, freaky dad.

SPEAKER_04:

No, he's gonna be like no nasty hotel food. I they yeah, at this hotel, you have to bring his own food, so he's got some real good dog food there.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh god, so the hotel's so cheap they don't even feed him. Jeez, Teddy. I at least get a free waffle at holiday. Well, you know I'm cheap. We have to keep losing Teddy. I know you're cheap. I can hear you. You still there?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I'm trying to get back to you. Somebody call me and then uh Well, you know, these people gotta leave you alone.

SPEAKER_00:

We're trying to get out of here, and everybody else is probably ready for us to get on out of here, too. By the way, we do this every single Thursday night, even on holidays like today. Uh but we do it at 7 o'clock Eastern time every single Thursday night. Uh, but Teddy, again, remind everybody where you will be this weekend.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh, tomorrow night and Saturday night. Gonna be in uh Winston-Salem, North Carolina at the Russell Cade at the Benton Convention Center there. Gonna start there tomorrow, Friday afternoon around three. And we'll see you there also on Saturday. Gonna be a big deal. Uh be there with a lot of heavy hitters. So looking to see everybody, and I might have a guest with me. You never know.

SPEAKER_00:

You never know who may show up with Teddy Long.

SPEAKER_04:

Maybe legendary Lola might be on in the building.

SPEAKER_00:

A lowlife. Lola. Oh, okay. Lola. I thought you said a low life. I'm like, what do you do? You just heard a Bob? I did. That's Lola. I will Lola may be showing up in North Carolina. All right, we're out of here. We'll see you again next Thursday night, 7 o'clock Eastern time. We're always live, and you always get to ask questions absolutely free.