Road Trip After Hours w/ WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long and Host Mac Davis

We Didn’t Do Super Chats, But We Did Hand Out Receipts

Mac Davis and WWE Hall of FamerTeddy Long

Start the year with stories that still smell like canvas and road coffee. We’re raising a toast to everyone who spent their holidays with us and diving straight into the real stuff: why working Christmas cards built tougher pros, how fewer reps can lead to more injuries, and what it takes to keep matches safe and believable when kayfabe is long gone.

We trade road tales that span Charlotte afternoons to Atlanta nights, then connect those memories to today’s schedule. House shows weren’t just bookings; they were the engine for conditioning, timing, and chemistry. We talk through the case for bringing some of that rhythm back, not for nostalgia’s sake but to protect talent and sharpen storytelling. Along the way, we spotlight the Texas scene and the excellence coming out of Dogg Pound Championship Wrestling, where Rodney Mack and Jazz mentor wrestlers, referees, and managers with the kind of holistic training that builds entire locker rooms.

Listener questions push us into the gray areas: Can contracts stop talent from exposing the business on YouTube? Short answer: not really, and that’s not the point. The better fix is professionalism—sell when it’s time to sell, don’t sandbag, and remember that receipts, when used wisely, are guardrails, not grudges. We round it out with rapid-fire name association—Arn Anderson’s quiet leadership, Baron von Raschke’s humor, Buddy Landell’s chaos, Kamala’s reputation, and Wahoo McDaniel’s legendary chops—and a salute to Jimmy Hart’s relentless work ethic that still sets the standard.

We wrap with community news, including Abdullah the Butcher’s 85th birthday celebration in Atlanta and a reminder that this show stays free by choice. If you love old-school fundamentals, modern insights, and a room full of familiar faces, you’ll feel right at home. Subscribe, share with a friend who misses house shows, and leave a review to tell us which classic tag team you’d revive and why.

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SPEAKER_00:

And that, Teddy, is a case of ask and you shall receive because you mentioned people sending in uh you know uh music to us uh for the show. That is another one right there. That uh well, what are you doing, Teddy? I'm getting lost. Where'd you go?

SPEAKER_03:

I'm trying to uh set myself up here.

SPEAKER_00:

I thought you had it set when we started.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I did, and I changed my mind. So now we're ready. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Anyhow, uh good rock open. I enjoyed that. That's the full version. Uh, you won't have to hear that every time we do the show. Uh, it'd be one of the many songs that will rotate around, but uh uh I enjoyed that one just as much. Teddy, happy new year, my friend.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, uh, happy new year to you, Mac. Uh, I was just sitting there thinking, uh, you know, just uh another outstanding uh year, you know, you and I we made it again to see another one, and uh hopefully uh, you know, we'll have a very successful uh this year like we've always liked the others that we've had in the past.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we have been uh extremely lucky uh when it comes to this show and the people who uh watch and listen to us. And I need to mention this too, because we focus so much on this live show, but a huge part of our audience is also on the uh podcast stream that we put up every week as well. Uh, and so between that and the video views and the and the content that we put out there, guys, thank you so much. The fact that you take the time to be with us on, especially New Year's Eve. I mean, New Year's night right now. Last week it was Christmas night uh that we were in here. Uh so you know, this is dedication by Teddy and I because we have always said, no matter what, we wanted to make sure this show happened. Now, there may have been a couple of times in the last year where it didn't, but usually that was due to maybe a conflict of our uh where we needed to be at the same time. We had to just cancel it because we had to be somewhere else. We couldn't get out of that. Uh, but outside of that, man, we've met a lot of you, met a lot of you over the year, uh, whether it was in St. Louis, Jacksonville, Atlanta, wherever it may be, man, we've met a lot of you guys. And uh it's really cool. In fact, I see you all popping in here in the room right now. Uh let me pull up. See Zach Minger. He's usually one of our first, and I think he may still be. Where's it? Zach, are you in here? Let's see. Yep. Zach, happy new year, Teddy back in everyone. What it is there, Zachary. Pretty classy lady, uh, also stopping by and saying hello.

SPEAKER_03:

All right. Well, you know, pretty classy lady is one of our regulars. She's with the show each and every week. And uh, we just want to thank you so much for joining us and happy new year to you and your family.

SPEAKER_00:

We have uh David uh popping in the room now. He's saying you two should uh do a Legion of Raw review every Monday night or grow down like you and Russo used to do. Um, well, we yeah, we'd love to do that. For anybody who wants to pay us money to come and do that, we'd be happy to.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, thank you. Um I'm glad you straightened them right out. We got no problem with doing none of that, okay? Just ring where's the check.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and this is one of those shows, too, guys. But we make nothing from this show. We don't do super chats, we don't ask you for money. All we ask is that you watch the show and have a good time with us for 30 minutes every week. This is on us, and uh anything else outside of that, yeah, it's a little bit of money.

SPEAKER_03:

Maybe you see me out on the road or somewhere, you know, in an airport or somewhere and you want to slip me a couple dollars, you know. I'll uh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And he won't share either, he won't even tell me you got it. Yeah, he's like, No, that was all mine.

SPEAKER_03:

You weren't with me.

SPEAKER_00:

Curly man saying, Hey, Mac and Teddy, happy new year. Good to see you, curly man. All right, same beer, man. Uh, let's see. We also have pretty classy ladies saying that she is uh glad to be here. We're glad to have you here, and also uh Jess Paul. I hope I I hope I got that right saying, How are you, Players? Oh, we good, players. Teddy, let me ask you something. This is New Year's, and and uh, you know, when it comes to the business in New Year's, are there moments anywhere in your wrestling career where a New Year's Eve or a New Year's show uh may pop into mind? I didn't I should have sent you this question earlier today, but it was just something that kind of came up at the last minute in my mind. But anything that you can think of?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I well, no, you know, because I mean it they stopped it and it hadn't happened in such a long, long time. So, you know, I really hadn't thought about it no more. But you know, at one point in time do you look forward to that because you knew that was gonna be happening around Christmas and Thanksgiving? You know you were gonna be working, so you know you was waiting on that. But since that that all stopped, you know, it's kind of you know, it's kind of great to for the guys to be at home, you know, with your families on Christmas. I think that's a day everybody should just come together.

SPEAKER_00:

But uh, you know, can't you imagine, Teddy, back in your day, uh, you know, because you were like we we talked last week, you worked on Christmas and you know, Christmas Day and stuff like that because that was the business. Can you imagine not having to have to do that and still being home for Christmas all those years? How many Christmases would you say you missed? Every one of them?

SPEAKER_03:

Every one of them. Wow. Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

When the kids are young, you know, that's gotta be tough.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, yeah, what happened one time then what the the good part for me is uh we would do Charlotte in the afternoon uh and then we would go and do Atlanta that night. So that way I was able to go home, you know, because we was right there in Atlanta. So that it didn't, that it didn't, it wasn't too bad.

SPEAKER_00:

But it still wasn't like being off in the Christmas morning, waking up with the kids around the street.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, by the time you got home, by the time you got home after that, after the show and everything, it's 11 o'clock at night. So what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. Nothing, nothing sleep and get up and go back to work the next day. That's right. Yep. All right, uh see a wrestling historian. Hey, good to see you in here, my friend. Does Mr. Long still back the Mac?

SPEAKER_03:

Exactly. I still back the Mac, the Lord and only legendary Rodney Mac.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, and uh of course uh the other Mac would be me, but that's without the K. That's the only difference between Rodney and I. He's he's Mac with the K, and I'm Mac with the C. Uh man, I haven't seen Rodney lately. Yes, I have. Rodney just had surgery recently on something. I'm not sure he had a repair, probably, of an injury or something, but uh so uh hey Rodney, if you're watching uh you or jazz, uh get wet, get better soon, get back up on your feet, do whatever you gotta do to get in uh that's a they're doing a lot of great, they're doing a lot of great things out there in in Texas with Dogpound Championship Wrestling.

SPEAKER_03:

They're doing a lot of great things. They're involved with the NWA, uh with their with their TV deal and uh Randy Klein and all those guys, man. They're doing a lot of good things out there in Texas. And uh, like I said, man, uh, I'm I'm I'm looking forward, you know, when things get right, you know, to go back out there and see them.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, Teddy, I I don't know if I've ever said this before or not, but uh when I met Jazz for the first time and when I met Rodney for the first time, I wasn't sure who I was gonna see. Because, you know, you see what you see on TV, and if if they're really good at doing their job, you believe. And I was in the business. I mean, I, you know, so I knew, you know, that these are probably good people, but still, I didn't know just how nice they really are. These guys played great characters when they were doing their character work, but outside of that, Rodney and Jazz are two of the sweetest people I think I've ever met, the friendliest people you'll ever see. And if you want help when it comes to wrestling and learning how to wrestle properly, those guys are who you need to contact. They're the ones who can set you up and get you going, especially in that Texas area, which is so hot with uh professional independent wrestling.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, you know, like I said, and a lot of those guys that you see on that TSW Texas style wrestling, those guys come right out of that uh dogpound championship wrestling to school out there that Rodney and Jazz are running. And they have a lot of great people out there that are behind them that are teaching you and everything. And you get not only wrestling, if you want to be a referee, manager, or whatever you want to do, they've got somebody out there that can teach it to you.

SPEAKER_00:

As a matter of fact, Jazz and Rodney's daughters are involved. Uh, I thought at least one I know of that's involved in uh the refereeing part of the business, uh, because she was actually in the ring when I was in Texas.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I had a chance to work with her too when we were out there. Yeah, yeah. She I think she's doing some bigger things now with them.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I yeah, I imagine so because she was just starting at that point, Teddy, I believe, because she still had that deer in the headlight look like when she got in the ring. But uh well, after a couple of times, so yeah, she had a down pat. Ellen's in the room. Hope her and Buddy are doing good. And she's saying, hey guys.

SPEAKER_03:

All right, Ellen, how are you? And happy new year to you and Buddy.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, watch, I'm gonna screw this up, Teddy. I just said this guy's name crop properly a while ago. Uh uh, just Paul. I hope I said that right this time because he says you got it correct in the last time I said it, so it's spot on. It's an Indian name. Well, hopefully I got it right the second time, too, because I can't remember what I said the first time. Let's see, Chris Nelms is in the room. Good to see you, locomotive.

SPEAKER_03:

Yes, sir, man. Good to see you too, and to hear from you. Ain't seeing you, but it's good to hear from you, Chris, man. Hope you're doing okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, man. You and the wife, I hope you had a great holidays.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh yeah, what a nice guy, Chris Nelson. I mean, golly, I mean, they don't come no nicer than him. What a hell of a nice guy.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, let me tell you how I met Chris. Uh, you met Chris in the wrestling business after he got into it. Yeah. I knew Chris, who was a fan who watched Ringside at our shows when I was performing. And he was just a kid. And uh, he'd come to the shows, and uh he he you could tell he was gonna do something in this business later on because he loved the business that much. But he was every single show I ever did when it came uh in the Millageville, he was there. He was there. His mom was there, who was, by the way, Teddy, uh, somebody else, his mother, uh, who's no longer with us, uh, she was so sweet, and she was a huge fan of Mad Mac. And uh so I always had a special place uh when it came to his mother, uh, because she was a good lady, really good lady. Uh let's see, uh also Ellen is saying that uh she remembers Christmas Day shows in Atlanta. I think a lot of the people in the South probably do. Yeah, well, a lot of people look forward back to going to wrestling.

SPEAKER_03:

They didn't have to be. Man, they're ready.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, that was a big thing for a lot of people. That was part of your Christmas. You got tickets to go see wrestling. That was a Christmas gift that you got, and you're all going to get together and go after you know you know, finish unwrapping everything and getting out the door. Uh man, those were good times back then, too, Teddy. I see where WWE now is starting to consider that maybe house shows should come back in one fashion or another because some of the talent with the injuries they're getting now, they're not getting enough motion. We talked about this a couple weeks ago, Teddy. Back in the day when you were on the road, your body stayed limber because you kept using it. You know, you didn't give it time to tighten back up. When you're only doing one show a week, it's very difficult not to get uh injured in this business. And I think they're seeing that now, so they may be putting more you know shows on the road for some of their top guys and on raw on SmackDown. And I think they need to. Uh let's see. We also have Plot Twist Jones in here. I love that name. Happy New Year, he says. All right, happy new year to you, Blair. And also we got uh, let's see, first action news. Hey, I like that. Is it first action news? That's not from uh seems to rage these. Hello from Jacksonville, Porter. Do you guys play online betting? Seems to be the rage these days. I I don't bet anything because it's not guaranteed.

SPEAKER_03:

No, I uh I don't I don't care about none of that.

SPEAKER_00:

I I've never been a big fan of gambling.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh, you know, if you if you catch me if I was I wouldn't do it online, I wouldn't do it on my phone.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, I I saw something the other day, and and guys, y'all tell me maybe this is something that you y'all trust a lot, but in the old days used to have these wheels and it was just go around and around and they would stop mechanically. Now they're all computer screens. How do you know that they haven't gone in there and told that game to never allow anybody to win? You know, it's there's too much behind it to make you feel like you're really getting a chance.

SPEAKER_03:

Brother, everything's a work.

SPEAKER_00:

Everything. It don't matter what it is. That's that's the great thing about being in wrestling. You kind of learn after a while, you know, everything's a work. Uh, let's see. Uh Dave is uh saying Teddy, just watch the skyscrapers beat that jobber that wouldn't sell. Was great, uh, you yelling at him.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, you know, I just wanted to hype, you know, I'm looking at it too, and I'm like, I know this this guy is not out here not selling. So, you know, I'm I thought I I believe I was more pissed than them.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, you know, and and and rightfully so. I mean, if if you have a guy in the ring and he's not selling, you've got to make him sell because otherwise you're gonna kill yourself in the ring.

SPEAKER_03:

That that's the way it was back in the day, you know what I mean. Now, if you don't know how to do this, we'll show you.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, oh yeah. You know, there there were a couple of times where I've had to lay a clothesline on somebody, and I did that, and I think one of my one of my last matches, and I was in my 50s, and somebody wasn't bumping like I thought they should. So I brought it in pretty hard to make sure they went down the way I wanted them to, and they did. You know, sometimes you have to do that because they will make you look weak. There are people out there who would love to see you screw up and they'll get your spot. So they'll they'll sandbag you in a lot of ways. Oh, they know what they're doing. Oh, absolutely. All right, let's go into that mailbag.

SPEAKER_01:

Letters, oh, we got letters, we get your letters every day. Mailback, mail pad, mail today. I like those letters, you better find out what you got today. Oh boy, mailbag, mail today.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, before we open up the mailbag, let me mention that uh if you'd like to be a part of the show tonight, all you have to do is just leave a comment uh in the comment section. We'll throw it up on the screen. It's absolutely free. Uh, like we said, we don't do super stickers or anything here. It's all free. We just want you to be a part of the show. Uh and Teddy Stacy in Florida writes, Teddy, do you have any New Year's resolutions?

SPEAKER_03:

No, I don't make New Year's resolutions because you don't know you're gonna even be here for the whole year. So you know why?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I don't think Teddy.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying. So I don't make no resolutions, but I just make sure that uh I make it a better year than I did last year. You know, I learned from my mistakes. So that's how, you know, that's how I do it.

SPEAKER_00:

Scotty Warren uh passing by is another guy that's uh in the Georgia Independent scene that I've known for years. He was in the business when I started. Uh he actually helped me out quite a bit in the beginning. Uh he's just saying he's just passing by Happy New Year's. Good to see you, Scotty. Thank you, Scotty. Uh, let's see. Elijah saying, hey guys, happy new year question for a second. Do you think WWE you know, like, can I say uh Okay. Daddy, you'll have to help me here. I can understand this. Do you think WWE could know like how can I say this? Like they're wrestlers.

SPEAKER_03:

Um I don't know what that word is.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I think they might be able to, Elijah. Um then again, maybe not. I I don't know. I don't know what the question is. I'm sorry, brother.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, yeah, you can't answer it if you don't know it. I don't even know what this last word is he's got. It says wrestlers aurium.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. Orman or something. He says, I'm sorry. I was trying to say, like, keep things private privately when they hire the wrestlers, and if they get released, could they have something in the contract? I don't know if that helped me anymore either.

SPEAKER_03:

I still don't know what you're talking about, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Brother, I'm sorry. Try again. I mean, we don't mind answering it.

SPEAKER_03:

I have no idea what it what he's asking.

SPEAKER_00:

What's with I don't let's see, first action year saying Jimmy Hart's birthday, today 80. Thoughts on his career, Dedek?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, God, man. Love Jimmy Hart. Look, God, what a sweetheart of a guy, man. Work with him for so many, many years. And uh, you know, I last time Jimmy and I, where I saw him uh at the wrestler cade this uh couple uh last year in uh Western Salem.

SPEAKER_00:

Somebody took his mic he took his megaphone. Oh, did they really? They stole his megaphone. He's got it back now, I see. But I'm sorry. I just had to throw that out there.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I didn't know that because me and him was walking and talking I never did I talked to him a little bit, then he got busy, and so I never didn't talk to him anymore.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, somebody stole his megaphone. But man, I mean you gotta have balls to do that.

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, yeah, wow. But no, no, not that not this day in time. No, people just crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but uh go ahead.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, that's okay. But yeah, man, great uh Jimmy Hartman, the nicest guys you could ever meet. And Jimmy, you know, I swear 80 years old doesn't look a day over 50. And he hasn't changed, he's looked that way every since I've known him.

SPEAKER_00:

Teddy, I the last time I saw him, we were in St. Louis, uh, and he was a part of the uh the event uh that Herb Simmons puts on over there with uh Nick Rittenhauer. And when I saw him putting chairs out, now this you gotta keep in mind, this is Jimmy Hart. He's putting chairs out, setting them up for the crowd to come in. He's trying to get things put together wherever he can help. And that is a Hall of Favor Jimmy Hart who's doing that. So anybody who thinks that uh, you know, that you can just get in this business and sit back and do nothing from here on out, you can do that, but you're never gonna be respected like Jimmy Hart, who still goes out to this day to give everything he can for every dollar that he's been paid by that promoter. And that's impressive. That's right. All right, let's see. Uh let's go to the next question here while I'm looking at the screen here. Carl in Tennessee. Uh name association. I'm looking at these names real quick. Teddy, these names are this is all Jim Crockett. So this will be interesting.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't see any of that.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh no, well, this is in the letters. This isn't on the screen. Okay. Uh so let me give you a couple of these and we'll go back to the screen. Uh uh, they want name association. I'll give you a name, you give me your thoughts. Uh, but this is all from what I can tell, uh, NWA Jim Crockett promotions. So this is something for guys. Uh first is Arn Anderson.

SPEAKER_03:

Nice guy. Very good. I had a good chance to work on Arn a lot when I went to WWE when I played, well, WWE when I went there and started there, and Arn was there, and after Arn started working as an agent there. So uh Arn uh had a lot of stuff that I did, you know what I mean? He was the agent for some of the matches that I was involved in. So uh uh another thing too, me and Arn started, you know, well, I I started way back in the day putting up the ring, taking the ring down when Arn was part of the poor horsemen. Uh I remember when he was a singles, uh, you know, by himself. So I've known Arn a long time. But he said something to me one time, and uh, you can ask him, you know, and uh he walked up to me and I spoke to him. We talked and he said, Teddy Lone, I want you to know you are jewel. And that's what he said to me.

SPEAKER_00:

He needed no value.

SPEAKER_03:

Right. So that's what then now you understand what I say. I pay attention to people that do things that they don't have to do. He didn't have to tell me that.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no. But uh, and you've told me some of the stories about some of the guys who did that and did look out for you when you got there, uh, which is good to hear because you know, you hate to think that everybody back then was the same way. And they weren't. Uh you know, there were some good people out there, just not as many as there are now.

SPEAKER_03:

So it's like Gordon Soley said to me one time, and I never will forget it. He said, Teddy Long, you are wrestling's best kept secret. Yep, even Vince McMahon.

SPEAKER_00:

Vince McMahon even uh told Jack. Vince told me they've been they've been wasting your talent.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, Vince told me he said they wasted you down south.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep. All right, let's see. We have Elijah. Let's see if we can get it this time, Teddy. I'm sorry, I was trying to say, like, keep things pro wait, I've already hit that. So the Elijah, forgive me. It's the next one down here. Here we go. Uh, so they won't expose the business, like, cause you got a lot of people that does that that has their YouTube channel now.

SPEAKER_03:

I see what brother trying to brother. Listen, it it the business has been exposed, okay? K-fabe and all that has been out, I don't know how many years, or it's been gone. But if if you had the opportunity to be at WrestleMania and see all the people that are behind the stage or behind the scene that have no business back there, I never will forget one night we were somewhere and I know Pat Patterson stopped me and he said, God damn it, can you believe all these people? I mean, he was outraged because that was wrong, but you but that's the way of the the world now, that's the way of the business now. So ain't nothing worried about exposing. It's already exposed. It's world wrestling entertainment.

SPEAKER_00:

By the way, I think I figured out what Elijah's been asking when it comes to contracts and everything else. He's wondering, I think, Teddy, shouldn't they put something in a contract that keeps some of the talent from ever going onto websites or YouTube channels and exposing the business?

SPEAKER_03:

Well, you can't do that to somebody. That's free, that's freedom of speech. You can't stop somebody from telling the truth.

SPEAKER_00:

But I can understand why some people may think that, you know, that uh maybe they could do that in a contract.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, they they did have something uh back in the day now when you did something like that. You know, you would they they didn't know who you were, and you might get beat up in the ring, or you you you know that you you you knew you did the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yep. Uh let's see. Uh Tim Noble. Hey Tim, good to see you in here. Uh Happy New Year, Mac and Teddy. Thank you, Tim. John Saxon, uh mailbag. Who in the hell sends a letter anymore? Shh, it's all work. Uh the next one, Teddy on the uh name association is Baron von Rashke.

SPEAKER_03:

I worked with him a little bit. He was a real funny man, man. He he he was quiet, you know, and stuff, but uh he was funny as hell. He'd always do some funny stuff. But uh he was he was a nice guy.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, how about uh Buddy Landell?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah, wow, Buddy Landell. I remember one time uh Buddy, everybody hated Buddy. I don't know why, because he he but him and Butch Reed God rest their soul. They would have the worst feud you have ever seen in your life. And I remember one time we got pulled over, and Buddy Land it was me, JY D, Butch Reed. I think Ron was with us too. So I'm driving, we get pulled over with speed. And so the cop, I'm trying to talk to him, he's trying to talk to me, and Buddy is in the back, and he's yelling out hey, we don't have time for this. We're professional wrestlers, we're missing a lot of money. You're holding us up. We have to we have to get all he was just and uh guess what happened then?

SPEAKER_00:

What was that?

SPEAKER_03:

I'm following the police all the way now to the police station.

SPEAKER_00:

So his mouth got you in trouble.

SPEAKER_03:

Got got us all. If a guy one guy got in front of the car and another police car got behind us, and he had me following all the way to the police station.

SPEAKER_00:

Teddy, I've always heard stories about Buddy and his partying that he would do. Was he real heavy in the partying?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Any any stories you remember of uh any uh situation with Buddy Landell? Any memories?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh, I remember Butchered beat him up one night because he took a beer ball and broke it and threw it in the swimming pool. And then people were swimming, and he threw a he broke the ball and threw it through the glass in the swimming pool.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, that's good. He needed an ass weapon for that. Let's see what else we got here. We got a couple more names we'll get to in a minute. Here, Curly Man. Hey Mac, what was your workout regimen back in the day when you were wrestling? You looked shredded back in the day. Uh, I was younger. Uh my body still had that uh that ability to build muscle and look good, which uh it it disappears as time goes on. But uh it really, when it comes down to it, and Teddy can tell you this, it comes down to diet. That's that's really the truth. If you want to get shredded like that, you want to have those muscles and the veins and everything else, you gotta watch what you eat. And uh and that's 98% of it. The rest of it is just in the gym and hitting the weights.

SPEAKER_03:

And then I don't care how much you go to the gym. If you ain't dieting, then you're just wasting your time.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep. All right, let's see. Uh Rutherford saying, why do you think there was never a doom reunion? Feels like a missed opportunity.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I don't know. I guess probably somebody didn't really think enough of them to want to have one. So, you know, that's how you know that's how I kind of look at it. I could understand why they uh wouldn't put those guys in the in the hall of fame, you know, butch and run. They were the first, you know, I hate to keep sounding racing, but they were the first black, as they so-called tag team champions or whatever it was. So I I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00:

I I still uh just recently when Teddy and I are working for a group, I had mentioned that I would love to see a Doom revival. Uh, we I had talked about a couple guys going up under, you know, the hood in the beginning and then becoming what Doom was. Uh, because I think there is uh a place. I mean, when you see T and it doesn't matter if they're black, white, purple, green, yellow, I don't care. I think that there's a need for that gimmick. Uh, and I think that gimmick could really go over well. I think a lot of people remember Doom and they remember them much like the Rogue Warriors. You know, they were ass kickers, and you knew they were. Let's see. Uh tell Teddy that uh uh this is John Saxon. Tell Teddy that Edwina says hello.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, well, hello, Edwina.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's see. Uh a wrestling historian, why did you leave WCW and go back to being a referee in WWF?

SPEAKER_03:

Because I went for another job. They hired me to come to work for Vince. And so at the time that I went in to work for Vince, Vince had no idea of what I did down south, as he said, you know, for his managing. And so uh after I started refereeing there for a while, I think they had a meeting one day and uh they were looking for a manager. And Earl Hefner saw the slaughter and uh golly, I'm trying to believe it was somebody else. Oh, Michael Hayes. Well, they were the ones that talked to Vince and told Vince as well, hey, you got Teddy Own right here. He managed the whole story and all that. And so then Vince said, Well, get what I why do you why somebody didn't tell me about him, you know. And so anyway, make a long story short, they called me and I went to work and I walked out that night with D Lo Brown. I come back in, and that's the night that Vince told me they really wasted me down south. He said, I cannot believe I got you ready under my nose. I've had you ready under my nose all this time.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, if I were with Vince, I'd be wondering who didn't tell me this uh sooner, and maybe they should not be having a job right now. Think about how much quicker that could have happened.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, I think it just that we leave it to God. We don't we let it happen when he wants it to happen.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's see. Uh Jay Ruker saying, uh Jimmy Hart, Billy Gunn, and RVD all drink from the same fountain of youth. Uh those guys never age. And Billy Gunn looks incredible. You know what I mean? Jimmy Hart does as well. RVD, uh, Teddy just had uh twins. He and his wife just had twins. That blows my mind. RVD is a dad. I uh you know, wow.

SPEAKER_03:

And just just stay in shape.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, man. Yeah, man. If nothing else, keep that cardio up. Yeah. All right, let's get a couple more names uh and some more stuff from uh the live feed here. We'll see the other two names I got on this name association, Teddy, Kamala.

SPEAKER_03:

I didn't work with Kamala much. I did meet him one time in passing, you know, but I never did work with him, so I never did get a chance to know, you know, anything about him. All I but I never heard nothing bad about him. All I heard, you know, you know, hell of a nice guy.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, here's another name. And I'm not sure that you passed. I don't know, Teddy. This is kind of a this is kind of like Kamala. Wahoo McDaniel.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, god, yeah. Wahoo. I traveled, I rode with Wahoo for a long time. And uh Wahoo was another, excuse me, Wahoo was another guy that tried to help me. Well, he didn't try, he helped me and he warned me about people that were after me, and he told me who they were, and he told me to watch your back. And uh I remember one time in Midland, Texas, and that's where Wahu was from, and we was at his town, his hometown that night, and he was the agent. And uh, you know, I like I said, to rap be with Wahoo and you know him, you'll love him to death. Great guy. So I'm sitting, I'm in the ring, I'm managing and something. So Wahoo's just the agent that night, but all the people know him, and so it just came to my head, and so I sent, I sent the referee, I sent, I told the referee, I said, go tell Wahoo to come up to the ring, I'll do something and tell him to come in and chop me. And uh I said, and Wahoo came in and did that. They went nuts, man. Very good. But I did it, you know, for Wahoo because they was, you know, they loved him there, man. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I let's see. Tim Noble's uh Mac, nobody laid it in like you and Mike Stratus. You guys used to lay it in stiff if they didn't sell.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh because they couldn't, that's because they couldn't work.

SPEAKER_00:

I was stiff already.

SPEAKER_03:

I uh I I I liked contact.

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't believe in full contact, but I believe that you need to touch because it makes it more believable.

SPEAKER_03:

It that exactly right.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Uh let's see. Uh we also have Falls County everywhere. Hey man, good to see you in here. Uh saying happy new years, Teddy and Mac.

SPEAKER_03:

All right, thank you guys.

SPEAKER_00:

I hope to see you guys again up in St. Louis. Uh let's see. First action news. Did you ever have to give a wrestler a receipt anytime in your career?

SPEAKER_03:

Talking to me.

SPEAKER_00:

Talking to me. Yeah. Uh maybe. We'll put it that way. Maybe. Uh, but only only if I thought that uh it was one that was needed. And there was only one case I can think of where that did happen.

SPEAKER_03:

Matt, listen to you, listen to you, listen to this. Matt gave receipts and didn't even know they were receipts. Okay, so I'm gonna tell you that right now.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, I knew what a receipt it was.

SPEAKER_03:

He was stiff, okay. That's nobody that ever worked with him come back and say they had a great mess. They come back, they're sore, they're holding something on their oh Mac, Jesus Christ, what the fuck? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

He's lying through his teeth. Although, although some of my opponents that I had, uh, we did go out, Teddy. This this is this is how I guess you know you love what you do. We would go out uh to the curtain before a match would start, especially if it's like a cage match or something. I would apologize before I ever went through the curtain. Man, I'm sorry. I know I'm gonna lay something in there gonna make contact. I know some of this is gonna hurt. My bad, but let's make this a good show. And he would do the same thing. We come back in the back, and man, it was all good. You know what I mean? Let's see what else we got here. Uh, Teddy is the GOAT general manager. Uh, that's pretty classy, lady, and that that's true. There's never been another general manager like Teddy Long in the business. Uh, let's see, Hoss Holding. Hey Hoss, good to see you in here. Happy New Year from the 64-year-old outlaw, full schedule of romping and stomping.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, just keep on romping and stomping.

SPEAKER_00:

And he's up in the Texas area where we were talking about just a while ago. He's he was part of that group. I think he still is. Uh Lance, can you tell the story in Fresno that you were in the ring with JBL and you called the town Bakersfield?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I couldn't, yeah, I was cutting this promo and JBL's in the ring, and uh, you know, and I'm out there in California and LA, you know, with that good indigo. So, you know, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm wide open in there. And so I said Bakersfield, and we were wearing Fresno, and so the people start booing me, you know what I mean? So just try to fix it, and so I caught it. I'm like, oh but it was too late, but it was a house show, you know, so it wasn't TV, so it wasn't too bad. But uh oh yeah, I I I I called Bakersville Fresno.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I saw um a video, I think, of him talking about that just today, or maybe that's what this came up from. Uh yeah, that was hilarious. Uh the stories with uh you and JBL and the guys in the car. And JBL said something that I've always known. When it comes to you, you two just work together. You you you play off each other perfect. You know, he would be the foil, and you'd be the guy coming in, laying the law down. Uh everybody played their role to a T.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh and he's sold, you know what I mean? Going back to selling, and he's sold because when I said something to him that he, oh, and what you can't do, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he dropped to his knees and and like begged, no, no, no, right, right. Yeah, that kind of stuff is good, especially for a chicken shit heel like he was.

SPEAKER_03:

You don't have that, you don't have that no more. Everybody now is in a hurry.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, true, true. Uh, here's something uh the pretty classic lady is asking Teddy, would you ever start your own YouTube channel? What you don't like me? What the hell was that?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, well, if somebody wants to put some money behind me and Mac, we'll definitely do it.

SPEAKER_00:

I think they just want you, Teddy. Not they just want to see the team.

SPEAKER_03:

We started as a team, and that's how we'll end as a team.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, can I tell you something? This is the God's honest truth. Teddy has been that way since I first met him. It's it's always been, if I get you get. It's always been that way. It's it's it's two of us. It's not just one, it's two uh to make the show work. And he's absolutely correct. And we have maintained that from the get-go. Uh, you know, and they even have Bill After pop in, you know, we don't have him on a regular basis because this is the team that we knew when we started we wanted to keep doing because it was free and it was our own time to come in here and do this, and and we enjoy it ours. So uh Teddy, we're gonna keep going. Uh if I I mean we go way over if I'm not careful here. Herb Simmons uh popping in saying, Happy New Year to both of you legends. Uh Herb will be in Atlanta. He's gonna be part of that Abdullah the Butcher uh birthday party, Teddy. Uh you want to talk about that?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh well, yeah, that's gonna be January 8th and 9th, I believe. Is it ninth and 10th or 8th and 9th? Uh no, I think it's 9th and 10th. On the 9th, there's a QA, and then on the 10th, there's the birthday celebration.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and they're two different things. Uh, make sure you go by, just pull up uh any information off of uh Larry Schremer.

SPEAKER_03:

They're at the Wyndham Hotel in uh the Atlanta Airport there. Uh I think that's what it is, the Wyndham Hotel, Atlanta Airport. But uh, I think we we got a fly you there. We can show you the address and everything. But that's gonna be uh January 9th and 10th. I did I know Ron Simmons is gonna be there, and I did talk to Robert Gibson, uh uh part of the Rock and Roll Express. I know he's gonna be part of that, and a lot of other great stars are gonna be there too. So if you're in Atlanta, uh come out and let's report that doodle the butcher. I mean, you know, he he he's one of the guys that paved the way for a lot of people too. So uh let's don't forget the butcher.

SPEAKER_00:

And I think I said last week that it was 80 years old. He is 85, according to the last thing that I saw. He is 85, so it's his 85th birthday. Uh and he'll be there along with uh uh everybody else that Teddy just mentioned. Should be a fantastic event. I'm still trying to make sure I can go, but I have another uh thing that may pop in that allows me not to go. So I I'm still kind of waiting to see. I'm hoping to be there though, because like I said, Herb Simmons and some of the other people I know very well are all gonna be there. When you mention uh, you know, uh Robert and you talk about uh uh Ron. I mean, these are people I love being around because they're hilarious and they're great at what they do and great talkers too. All right, we're out of here, Teddy. I gotta shut up because it's 7:41. We've had a ton of people in here. Uh we appreciate it very much. We do this every Thursday night, 7 o'clock Eastern Standard Time. It's wrestling's road trip after hours, and uh usually it's about 30 minutes long. Uh, we try to stretch it a little bit if we can. Uh, and uh so that's what we did tonight. Teddy, anything else you want to talk about before I say good?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh no, that's about it. Like I said, I'm doing the butcher's big deal. If you're in Atlanta, if you're gonna, you know, surrounding the areas you drive, please come out and uh help. Let's celebrate that. And uh, I don't know what the tickets are or whatever, but uh maybe Mac, I know maybe you can put up something you could kind of give them some more information on that.

SPEAKER_00:

Just check our Facebook pages. Uh, there are links on there to go to the Larry Shreve page. Uh that tells you everything you need to know. Just look him up on Facebook, Larry Shreve, uh, and they'll have all the information there.

SPEAKER_03:

Right. So I'm looking forward to seeing everybody out there that uh come out and be a big part of that. And uh, Mac, I'll give you more information on this, but I think February 21st, Nick Patrick's uh got another show going on in Atlanta, and uh I'll be I'll let you know more about that.

SPEAKER_00:

Cool. That sounds very good. And uh I hope everybody had a fantastic new year as well as the entire holiday season. It's time to go back to work now next Monday, but hey, it was fun while it lasted, right?

SPEAKER_03:

I'm glad. All right, we're out of here. I didn't never stop working.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm Mack Davis, and that of course is WWE Hall of Famer Teddy Long, and this has been Road Trip After Hours. Holla players